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To Snack Or Not To Snack ~ That Is The Question!?

Julie Clark & Catherine Chapman Episode 119

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Episode 119: To Snack Or Not To Snack ~ That Is The Question!?

Snacking used to be an occasional treat. Now it’s a full-blown industry, and for many of us it has quietly become constant grazing. We dig into the deceptively simple question “to snack or not to snack?” and why the answer depends on your energy, your routines, your hormones, and what you’re actually eating at meals.
We talk through how modern ultra-processed snacks can slip into the day without “counting” in our minds, while still pushing up calories and sending blood sugar and insulin on repeat spikes. We also unpack the hidden cost of frequent eating: digestion takes real energy, and when you’re stressed you’re not in rest-and-digest mode, so constant snacking can leave you feeling more tired and more crave-y. If you’re chasing better weight management, steadier energy, fewer cravings, or improved gut comfort, we share why focusing on three satisfying meals with enough protein can make snacking fade naturally.
There are caveats too. We cover when small, frequent eating can be supportive, including chronic fatigue, very fast metabolisms, young children, and certain hormonal phases where night-time blood sugar drops can disrupt sleep. You’ll also get practical tools you can try immediately: checking hydration before you raid the cupboard, using peppermint tea or brushing your teeth as a palate reset, and choosing smarter snack options when you genuinely need them.
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SPEAKER_02

Welcome to party fabulous. Join us on a mission. Fabulousness and reading five minutes. Get ready for some fightingness. How would we let's go within? Hello, hello, and welcome back to this week's episode of the Far Too Fabulous Podcast. Very nicely.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you so much.

Snacking Advice Then And Now

SPEAKER_02

I thought so too. So I'm glad that we're having lunch after recording this next podcast because just the thought of it is making me hungry. Yeah, my tummy's gonna rumble in a minute. We're gonna talk about snacks. Just because snacks are just lovely, aren't they?

SPEAKER_01

Well, yes, they are, but should we be snacking? To snack or not to snack? That's just the question.

SPEAKER_02

I mean it's a re it is a really good question. It's a really good question because is it a vice? Is there a gold standard? Should we be having it's confusing, right? Should we be having five small meals a day? Should we be having three big meals and nothing? Should we be having little snacks in between? What what is what what what what what what what what should we be doing?

SPEAKER_01

It's really interesting because there isn't a one size fits all scenario here. Of course there isn't, which we are going to go into. But when I was doing my nutrition training, which was actually now Was it a long time ago? It was over 30 years ago. Oh my goodness. So stuff's changed. So things have changed. So back then we would tend to suggest that you had breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner, but it's kind of moved away from that now. I think some of it is to do with that fasting protocols that people tend to be following, the research into fasting and longevity and things like that. Also, with the rise in diabetes and how our body works with every time we eat, with insulin, etc., that the advice now is to stick to three meals a day.

SPEAKER_02

I suppose though, I mean, it's got to then change with what the actual snacks are. Because back in the day when you first trained, there wasn't so much ultra-processed food. So imagine the snacks were fruits or nuts or or something like that.

SPEAKER_01

So true. Whereas now that's not it's a massive industry, isn't it? Snacking is a massive industry, and you're right, when if you talk to your parents or your grandparents, if you can, they didn't really snack when they were kids, especially, or just generally, they didn't really snack, they just tended to have their three main meals a day, and then I think go and have a go and get a box of broken biscuits.

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Yeah.

Ultra-Processed Snacks And Discounting Calories

SPEAKER_01

I think it was more of a treat to have what would be considered a snacking item, but nowadays it is the snacking industry is huge, and the biggest problem that I find looking at people's food diaries with snacking is that we don't necessarily choose the best options when it comes to snacking, and we also have something that goes on in our brain that almost discounts the snack.

SPEAKER_02

It's like it was you just said about when they used to have snacks, that it was the biscuits and things, and they were a treat, which meant that they weren't very frequent. And actually, I think we've dragged that into regular, like the snack means a treat, but then we have it regularly.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, yeah. But then it also depends on the quality of our main meals because a lot of the time our body signals for us to search out for more food when it's not got the nutrition it was looking for. That it needed in the first place that you should have got from your main meal. Yeah, yeah. So we get that that can happen, but most of the time it's another habit, isn't it?

Habit Eating And Better Dessert Timing

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you have something with your cup of tea. Yeah, you're in if you're work from home and you go and make a drink, you're like, oh, I need something with this. Yeah. Or in the evening, yeah, when everything calms down, or the pudding, like after dinner thing. It's I know that it's a learnt behaviour. Yeah. That after I've had a meal, I fancy something sweet. But it's it's so weird because we've we didn't we've never had pudding.

Hunger Cues Insulin And Digestion Load

SPEAKER_01

No. But actually, if you like your snacks, the best way to have a snack is to have it as a dessert because it changes the way that your body deals with the nutrients going in. So if you are somebody that likes a biscuit or something, is it almost better to have your dinner and then have your cup of tea and biscuit or something? Yeah, yeah. Although I don't want to encourage that behaviour, but that's better than having it separately, yeah. Than like waiting a little bit and then almost starting again with everything that's going on in your body. Yeah, I think there's several problems here. So with snacking, we never get to the point of being truly hungry. When I do the reset program, that's one of the things that we're particularly looking for is getting our natural hunger cues back. Because when you've got your natural hunger cues back, it impacts things like your portion size. Yeah, eating when you are truly hungry, it's a different relationship with food when you get that hunger, and also you start to realise that when you are truly hungry, that you would eat a bowl of broccoli in front of you if you're truly hungry. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But if you're not, you wouldn't want to eat a bowl of broccoli, you would rather have that handful of um mini eggs, yeah, and then you're acting on dopamine and hormones and things like that rather than being hungry.

When Snacking Can Help

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so I think having that the natural cue, and I do wonder sometimes when I look through people's food diaries or just general conversations, I think to myself, do you know when you're actually hungry? Have you ever been properly hungry? Or has it been a long time since you've been hungry? Because there is that constant grazing. And the other trouble with that is that every time you eat something, your body has to deal with it, it has to deal with the sugars, it has to, the pancreas has to produce its insulin, it has to work hard, your digestion takes a lot of energy. Yeah, yeah. So again, when you eat, your body's having to direct energy to digesting, even more when you're under stress. So we were talking about stress before in a previous episode. That when you're under stress, you're in fight and flight, you're not in rest and digest, therefore, your digestive system's not even ready for the food that comes in. It has to work really hard to process that through your system. It's like it's being woken up by your daughter in the middle of the night. Exactly. Exactly. So it takes a lot of energy and it takes a lot of effort to digest, and then all the other things that have to go on to deal with that, those nutrients going in, whether they are good nutrients or not, there is a case to say actually, should we leave a longer time between food and should we stick to three meals a day and have to be better? Have that rest in the middle from eating. Yeah, the only caveat I would put there is sometimes when I'm dealing with people that are like really low in energy, like they've got chronic fatigue or something, those types of people often it's it helps them if they eat little and often, so that they get in a gradual, like the the meals are quite small, but it's more um like continual energy coming in to try and support their system rather than one big meal and then a gap and then one big meal and then a gap. And then there are people that have a very fast metabolism that that have that blood sugar low, but often those people, it's the quality of their main meal actually. When you start to look at plenty of protein in there, it does make a difference.

SPEAKER_02

Then you kind of you can eke it out a little bit longer, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And young children, their tummies are really small, but they've got a high demand on energy and they're growing and developing. But again, we've got to look at the quality of food there because a lot of two-year-olds will really like the beige food, won't they? Yeah, absolutely. And but they will tend to want a bit more snacks. But I think if we were gonna generalize, the vast majority of people should not be snacking.

SPEAKER_02

That's really interesting, isn't it? I imagine it's probably gone full circle quite a few times, hasn't it? Gone from like the three meals and the snacks back to just no, nothing in the middle to keep rolling around. I feel like it almost is a trend sometimes one way and the other. I know for me, I go from zero to hungry in like 2.3 seconds. I'm I'm I'm built this way, apparently. And so it's a balancing act because I know if I wait until I am really, really hungry, I will probably make terrible decisions about what I'm going to eat. I take a bit of that away because I plan all of my meals. Although I didn't used to plan lunch, which was really odd and really silly, especially as I work from home. So I do that now as well. And the other thing I do, so I try and make sure that I know what I'm eating and I try and get that ready, because that's the danger as well, isn't it? You're suddenly hungry, and then you've got to make it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

Planning Meals To Avoid Bad Choices

SPEAKER_02

And then I eat while you're making so bad eating stuff while I'm making. I've eaten that half a meal by the time I've made something. And then you eat more than you would have intended to. Yeah, because then I'll eat the whole meal as well.

SPEAKER_01

So I've probably eaten one and a half meals by the time I'm finished. So that's where you've got to track back and think when did I last eat? What did I eat? How long has it been? Because if it is six hours, say you had your lunch at 12 and at six o'clock at night you're cooking the dinner, that is quite a long time, especially for women. Normally around four hours we start to get those cues happening. But then when we look at snacking generally, we're just pushing up our calories unnecessarily, and most of the snacks will tend to be higher in sugars, yeah. Just naturally from the the types of snacks that because you're not going to snack on a bowl of broccoli, are you? Generally speaking. Do you like a nice kale crisp? I do as well, actually. Yeah, that is a good snack. Yeah, we made some of those last night, actually. Yeah, they are nice. They're I mean, they're a brilliant snack, and it feels bonkers to be eating that much kale.

SPEAKER_02

It's like eating a bag of crisps.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but you've got to make those. Yes. And they're not something that you can easily make in advance because they go soggy, don't they? Yeah, you you have to eat them right then and there.

SPEAKER_02

A friend of mine made off the baking tray. Yeah. Oh, yeah, no, they they never make it into a bowl ever. No. A friend of mine made them in the air fryer. Oh, okay. That was really quick, really lovely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I don't have an air fryer because not that I'm I'm disappointed and I want one, it's because there are concerns actually over the safety of those in terms of toxic elements and things. It's quite interesting. Like the things that they're cooking in have made of, or I think it's a bit of both, how it's cooked and and also what the product's made of.

SPEAKER_02

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So I mean I don't have a microwave, which is always funny because sometimes you forget.

SPEAKER_02

It always trips me up when I bring frozen stuff around. How interesting. I don't have one because I've got not quite any room on my side.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that's the other thing, isn't it? Yeah, having the the space to put it because they are quite big. I I know people rave about them, but within the nutrition world, there is a bit of concern around them.

SPEAKER_02

Oh interesting. Yeah, we'll have to look into that. So obviously, choosing what snack and again planning, yeah, having those things available. Things like, oh, do you remember when we did the the mimicking diet and we had those almonds, chocolate covered almonds? Yeah. Oh, they were the best thing in the world. And they're really easy to make, aren't they? I was thinking that the other day. Really super, super easy. And things like I've got some fun, like protein energy balls that are dates. Again, they're funny.

SPEAKER_01

That's gonna be sugary, yeah, natural sugars, and you've got fibre and things. So there is an argument for at least that's better than having a chocolate digestive biscuit. Yeah, it's quite frankly, it tastes better.

SPEAKER_02

I like a chocolate digestive biscuit. You couldn't dunk an energy ball in your cup of tea, it would go horribly wrong.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that wouldn't be good. But I do think that you could experiment and have a play around, especially if you your energy is low or your digestive system is a bit unhappy, or you want to lose some weight, you could do an experiment where you just cut out your snacks and just look at your main meals and look to see when you're looking for a snack. Am I genuinely hungry? Is this a habit? Am I bored? Am I looking to uh have a stress relief or something like that? Yeah, and be a bit honest with yourself about why you're having that snack. Sometimes we are genuinely hungry, yeah, and that's okay. Yeah, if we've been doing a lot, if you've been out exercising or something, and you look back and you think, actually, I didn't have enough at that last meal, yeah, and you are genuinely hungry, then just be mindful of what you're then choosing to eat.

SPEAKER_02

That that time of the month when it stays still long enough, you're gonna eat it. Again, a planning, making sure that you've got plenty of healthy snacks, or just making sure that your meals are protein rich. And again, I'm thinking snacks could be another way of getting the amount of protein that you want into your body in the day as well.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's true. It can help towards that, can't it? But I still think that we need to give our digestive system a rest. I mean, we know how it's how important it is overnight to have that 12 hours of fasting because then our system is is at rest and is able to repair and things, and we don't want to be on a blood sugar roller coaster either. Yeah, so we don't want to keep pushing things up high and then our body having to deal with an emergency situation, too much sugar, and then you crush low, and then you end up on that roller coaster. So to even out that curve is important, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And so you really are in danger, actually, because yeah, you're right, snacks tend to be more sugary, more carby, that kind of thing. Yeah. And so then you've got this this big break between your bunny ears good meals, and then right in the middle, you go and throw this. You go and undo a ball. You undo all your good work, and the and yeah, and the body must have been like, whoa, we're just having a nice rest here. What are we doing? And yeah, it must be real, it must be really shocking.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I just think having just have a play around and experiment and see and see how you get on. Like it's not.

SPEAKER_02

I never thought about thinking about the times of the of the gaps, actually. For me, I don't think snacking is is a great idea, mainly because I can't stop. I don't think it's yeah really, I mean, obviously it's not good for break for my body, but making sure that I have got a smaller window between my main meals, definitely adding more protein, has meant less snacking. Definitely feel fuller for longer. Yeah. But yeah, interesting. Thinking about the actual timings and how long, and if I know that that meal is gonna have to be later, like if I've got poloxin or something, or choir or something like that, making sure that there's something in the middle. Because then, and making sure it's something you've controlled, yeah. Rather than suddenly being, I don't know, out in the car, you go and fill up petrol and then you have to go and walk past.

Hydration Palate Cleanses And Stopping After Dinner

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I said danger, danger zone there, isn't there? When you're hungry. Yeah. If you have to ever go to the supermarket when you're hungry, you only have to look in in your shopping trolley when you get to the checkout and go, oh dear, that was that didn't go well, did it? I was hungry or thirsty, I end up with like no. And often the body does mix up those things signals as well. When we're thirsty, it often you feel like you need to eat something.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I was gonna say, do you think as a society, as a nation, maybe, are we more dehydrated than we used to be?

SPEAKER_01

Is that a thing? I don't know if we're more dehydrated than we used to be, but we definitely need to be aware of hydration levels.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I do think we tend to underhydrate.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And I think that's a good thing. If you think you are feeling hungry and you're about to go and raid the cupboards, when was the last time you had a drink of water? Have a drink of water, leave it 10-15 minutes. Has that worked? Has that kind of settled that craving down? Were you just thirsty?

SPEAKER_01

And then go on from there. If you do a palate cleanse, and that can be peppermint tea is a palate cleanse. Yeah. Cleaning your teeth is a palate cleanse. So when you put something in like that, if you were to brush your teeth and then try and eat something sweet, it doesn't taste right. Yeah. So that change in your mouth, if you have a peppermint tea as well, it has the same sort of effect, then that can take away that mixed signal.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, a great way to then finish the day.

SPEAKER_02

Have your dinner, have your peppermint tea, and that's your that's like your stop gap for eating.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And it's really important to stop eating after dinner and then take yourself through till breakfast.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

Bedtime Snacks Hormones And Better Sleep

Favourite Snacks And Portion Traps

SPEAKER_01

That has that has a a lot of benefits as well of not constantly snacking. There are a few, again, there are a few caveats there. If you're somebody that is going through massive hormonal shifts, so you're in that estrogen is really high and you can't balance your progesterone and you're waking up in the night. Sometimes that's due to a blood sugar drop. Uh-huh. And sometimes it can help to have a snack before bedtime. But you then you've got to be very specific about the type of snack that you're having. What was so good then? So you want to have a snack that is going to help down the with tryptophan because that converts to your sleep hormone. So something like yogurt is quite a good one. Yeah. Some yogurt with some berries, some natural yogurt. Yeah, that's quite a good one. Something with oatsine can be helpful. Chicken actually is helpful, not for you because you don't eat that. But nice chunk of chicken just before you go to bed. Lovely. Yeah. But you've also got to balance it against other things, the impact on your digestion and stuff like that. But it's just in some people, if they have that blood sugar drop, it can help. But most of the time with those people, I will look and say, What did you eat for dinner? And if they've got, for example, we need carbs with dinner to be able to sleep. Yeah. And if people are being, especially the ones trying to lose weight, they tend not to have their carbs with their dinner. Yeah. And that's when they need them. Yeah. Especially women going through changes in hormones. Yeah. It's really interesting. What are your favourite snacks? My absolute favourite snack is apple wedgies with nut butter. Yeah, nice. I really, really love that snack. It's got everything about it then, as I just I just love it. I also like making a trail mix, you know, where you get some nuts and you put some like cranberries in or something and and some little bits of chocolate.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's a nice snack.

SPEAKER_02

That is a nice snack. Yeah. I think I quite like a ravita and hummus is a good as well that I will sort of reach for. I normally I'd have rice cakes, but again, I think glycemic inducts, they're not you can get whole grain rice cakes, they're a bit better. And you were talking about the company that make the rice. Oh, callow, yes. They make the beetroot and is it balsamic vinegar and something? They're a veggie cake rather than a rice cake. Ah, yes. They're so good. The trouble is, I mean, so I know that they're better for me, but actually, in the amount that I eat them, not for me. Probably better to just have very plain rice cake that I don't want to eat ten of.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I could eat biscuits until they come out my ears. I love biscuits, and I have to be very careful having them anywhere near me. Would you devour an entire tube of biscuits? Probably not. I think that would be a bit excessive. But you know the people that can have two biscuits with their tea? No. No. No. At least four. Four biscuits with your tea. Yeah, I have to be so careful with biscuits because they're just so nice, aren't they? They're so good.

SPEAKER_02

They're so good. Yeah, see, I'm definitely more of the savoury. Bag of crisps. Yeah. And now I I don't know. Is it me bigger or if the crisps got smaller? I think they have. The bags are full of air for a start. Although, that said, some of the grab bags that then people will have just on their own, they're almost like share bags, are just Absolutely enormous. Yeah. And so then you'd eat that as a normal bag of crisps, and that's gotta be twice the size of a normal bag of crisps. That's not that's way past snacking.

SPEAKER_01

That is it's interesting with that sweet and savoury thing though, because most people that say I'm a savoury person will say that they will like crisps. But what are crisps made of?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's true. Lots of sugar in them.

SPEAKER_01

It all breaks down to glucose. So even if we snack in on what we think is savoury, it even if it's something like cheese and crackers, the crackers are your sugar. Yeah. The crisps are still your sugar. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of the time it is still looking for that same thing. Oh cheese and crackers.

SPEAKER_02

Mmm, that's a good snack. Yeah. Cheese and crackers with some grapes. See, in cheese, I could like cheese, there's no off bum. No, no, that's a that's a hard one, yeah. That's a deadly one. When I was a student and I was first living on my own, I didn't buy cheese because I knew that I could not be trusted. I could not trust myself. Just cut off a little corner, then another one, then another one. Yeah. And I think I've been uh trying various contraceptive pills and God knows what, and it was really messing me up. My hormones, I can remember they were all over the place, and it was yeah, if if there was cheese there, I think I'd have got the whole thing and just like yeah, munched it. This is not working, is it? We're not we're not helping them with this with no snacks. Almonds, those chocolate-covered almonds, I love the energy balls that I make with dates and cacao and coconut and things like that.

SPEAKER_01

That's really good. I mean, if I'm out and I need to grab a snack, my go-to one that I absolutely love are the Delicious Liella bars. Okay. I really like them. Are they for hum for humans? Are they for adults? Yeah, deliciously yellow ones are for adults. Okay. Didn't she start off doing stuff? Not kids, you're thinking of Ella's Kitchen. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're thinking of Ella's Kitchen, aren't you? Different. Yeah, Deliciously Ella is the girl that had all the cookery books out and stuff, uh vegan. She was charting her own health journey, was doing these recipes and become very successful, actually. She's got some like restaurants and things up in London, and yeah, but her bars, they're not cheap, they're good, they're made of nuts and things. Um, but I really do like them. So if I'm grabbing a snack when I'm out and I see them, that's what I will tend to go for.

SPEAKER_02

I mean things that I guess things like handfuls of handfuls of nuts, fruit. But again, you've got a big I'm kind of thinking about all the the sugar in those.

SPEAKER_01

I do like in Marks and Spencer's you get the hummus with the carrot sticks. Oh yes, those are good, yeah.

A No Snacking Challenge Plus Lunch Ideas

SPEAKER_02

Or even the eggs as well. That actually is a really great snack. A hard-boiled egg. Yeah, really good. Eggs kind of keep me going for longer, as in not eating, not anything else there. Apparently, they they they do the opposite, they stop people going for longer, yeah. Um, but no, hardboard egg for me. Although I the children are disgusted often if I've I've got a heartboard egg with me as a snack because they don't smell very nice.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they do smell, don't they? But anyway, back to the main point, which is we should really reduce our snacking. Yes. And if we do like those things, it's best to have them as a dessert.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I think that's really great. Having a look at that space of time, making sure that you're hydrated.

SPEAKER_01

I think just experiment, see what happens. If you feel hungry, look back at your last meal. Did I have a food group missing there? Was there protein in it? Did I not eat enough at that meal for the level of activity I'm doing? That I'm doing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I think that the protein awareness for me has been a game changer with reducing any snacking.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that and not having it in the house.

SPEAKER_01

Perhaps that should be a next challenge in our group. I know snacking week. See how we get on. See how we're getting on.

SPEAKER_02

Just an awareness about yeah, where it where it happens, when it happens, and what we can do to alter our main meals so that it does yeah, so it doesn't happen again.

SPEAKER_01

I tell you what else it does when you do cut out snacking, if everybody in the family does it, it massive massively reduces your shopping bill.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because the snacks are all quite costly actually, if you think about it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I mean, I don't because mainly because I can't be I don't trust myself, I don't have very many snacks. We do have things for pet lunches. Yeah, but I'll make sure that there's only just enough for pat lunches so that I make sure that nobody can snack on them. Although the crumpets have gone down very fast this week. I can't stand crumpets. You can't we've said we've done this before. I there's nothing wrong with the crumpets, they're amazing with everything.

SPEAKER_01

Rubbery and like marmite, no.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, now we've made everybody hungry, they're gonna want to go and snack. Don't go and snack, go and have your main main meal, lots of protein, so that carries you through to the next one.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely, plenty of water. And we need to go and have our lunch now, and you are providing lunch today. So, what are you what have we actually got for lunch?

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SPEAKER_02

So exciting. I'm having this every single day now. So I've made my granola for breakfast, which is quite high in nuts, little bit of oats, but some protein powder, and then yogurt and my fruit. So that's what I have every morning for breakfast. Yep, that's that's sorted. And so for lunch now, I've been having a sweet potato. Don't tell her I'll put it in the microwave, and then sweet potato, yeah. And so we then we squish it. I've been squishing it under a big, very heavy candle. Okay. You can use anything to squish it under. So then you have parmesan cheese in the pan, and you wait until that goes a little bit melty, and then you put your squished sweet potato on top of that. Okay, and then while that's going on, you've got an egg not completely hard-boiled, so it's just a little bit soft in the middle going on. Yeah. And then I take that out, stick that into some cold water so that cools down. I put my spinach then into the pan with a little bit of butter. Nice. And so then you have your parmesan cheese all grilled onto your sweet potato, and then you have your layer of buttery spinach, and then we have some Greek yogurt with some harissa paste all mixed up. Oh, that sounds lovely. And then you hopefully, if all has gone well, you cut that egg in half and you open it up, and the middle bit's a bit gooey. Nice! That's what we're having for lunch. That sounds wonderful. Let's go and do that. I'm looking forward to that. So keep us updated in the Far Too Fabulous Facebook group as to how your snacking is going on and keep prodding us to remind us that we will do that no snacking challenge in about a month or so, maybe. Yeah, brilliant. Let's see you next time. Thank you so much for joining us today. We love creating this for you. We'll be back next week with another great episode.

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